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As a fly angler, I love to argue about stupid s***. Welded loops versus nail knots. Thanks, Flip! Bimini twist versus the Blind Splice Loop. Thanks, Steve Adachi! But few topics can get us going, like fly lines. And few fly line types spark as many arguments as lines for flats fishing. Some anglers swear by Rio lines, while others only use Scientific Anglers lines. And still others think that the AIRFLO Tropical Punch is the only way to go. This brings me to this article's topic: the Rio Premier Flats Clear Floater Floating Line. If you want to get some s*** started, do what I just did and show up to the flats with two of your rods rigged with this line!

I recently spent two weeks in the tropics chasing mostly permit. I spent a week in Xcalak at Xcalak on the Fly before sneaking down to Belize for some DIY and additional guided action with my boy, Hilian Martinez. But before heading down to the tropics, I reached out to my buddy at Farbank and told him that I’d be interested in checking out the Rio Premier Flats Clear Floater Floating Line. 


Because he’s nice, he sent me three variants: 7wt, 8wt, and 9wt. Unfortunately for me, Mother Gaia did not cooperate, so the winds on this entire trip never dropped below 20mph and typically hovered between 25mph and 30mph. With that in mind, I left the 7wt at home and rigged up my Sage Xi3 8wt with a Hatch Iconic 7+ and Sage Xi2 9wt with a Hatch Iconic 9+ with the Flats Clear Floater and headed to paradise. 

There's no denying how sick this setup looks!
There's no denying how sick this setup looks!

Walking out onto the docks with these rods immediately got folks’ attention. At first, everyone thought I was throwing an intermediate line. Upon finding out that it was a full clear floater, everyone was eager to try it out. The thing to know about the Flats Clear Floater is that it has the same grain weight and casting profile as Rio’s Flats Pro. So, if you like the Flats Pro, you’ll have no problem casting this line. My buddy Ethan, who organized this trip to Xcalak on the Fly, really likes the Flats Pro. He grabbed my 9wt and was easily launching bombs. That said, he was not a fan of the full clear floater because this is where s*** gets spicy, he thinks you can’t see it. While Ethan is a great angler, he’s only caught 4 permit compared to my 13, so what does he know? Of course, he brings up the single biggest issue that people have with clear lines, the fact that you can’t see it. But whatever, does it catch fish?

The bays on the left were definitely holding fish.
The bays on the left were definitely holding fish.

With the winds on this trip being what they were, the stealth advantages that a full clear line offer wasn’t really an issue. More than anything, the problem on this trip was getting the fly in front of the fish. The ​​Flats Clear Floater, similar to the Flats Pro, is a relatively light line, and while it worked well in the Bay when we were protected from the winds, I actually found myself spending most of the time casting a Sage Salt HD with Rio’s Tropical Outbound Short. I usually don’t like to chase permit with this line because, while it casts big flies great in windy situations, it’s heavy, and sensitive fish don’t seem to like it. But, as I mentioned before, it was windy as Hell, and the surface was lumpy. And if there was any doubt that these fish were sensitive, well, I caught this tiny little permit on the Tropical Outbound Short. 

Size doesn't matter!
Size doesn't matter!

I was standing on the bow, and this school was about 20 to 30 feet directly in front of me. I didn’t so much as cast to them as loudly plopped the fly right in the middle of the school, and they hammered the Itchy Scratchy that my buddy Brandon tied. 

When the weather is bad, the Rio Tropical Outbound Short is a great permit line.
When the weather is bad, the Rio Tropical Outbound Short is a great permit line.

Having landed my first Xcalak permit, it was time to head to Belize. With that in mind, my buddy Marc and I went on what turned out to be a rather epic trip from Xcalak to Ambergris Caye to meet up with our buddy Pete Fazzini. I’ll write about that experience in a later blog.

On my first morning in Ambergris Caye, I headed to town to meet up with Pete and Hilian. Hilian is a god when it comes to finding permit, and he has no problem finding fish. Similar to my week in Xcalak, the winds were brutal, ranging from 20 mph to 25 mph. When the winds are like this, I have a theory about chasing permit. If you can’t get the fly in front of the fish, then your line doesn't matter. Due to these conditions, I was actually casting a 10-weight Sage Salt R8 with a Rio Premier Tarpon Clear Tip Floater. I used this line the previous week in Xcalak, and while I was getting my flies in front of fish, they didn’t like it. The same thing happened on my 1st morning with Hilian. I was casting this heavy ass line with a heavy ass crab, and my casts were landing perfectly in front of schools of permit and they did not like it. Hilian barked at me, “Grab that lighter line.” He meant my Sage Xi2 9wt with a Hatch Iconic 9+ with the Flats Clear Floater. Despite the winds, my first cast was right on the money; a couple of strips and bam! Fish on!

The Flats Clear Floater comes through!
The Flats Clear Floater comes through!

Having achieved success with the Flats Clear Floater, I decided to throw that setup the rest of the day. Hilian, Pete, and I discussed the line at length. Hilian even took several shots with it, and while he liked the way that it cast, he said that with more novice anglers, it would be difficult because he would have a hard time telling them what to do. There were times throughout the day when he had to trust that I knew where the fly was. Seeing that I’ve been fishing with Hilian for years, and we know each other very well, the stealthy advantages offered by the line are advantageous, and the fact that he couldn't see it wasn't a huge problem.


Having spent two weeks with the Flats Clear Floater, I’m actually sold on it. I spend most of my time in the flats chasing permit DIY, and since I’m alone, it’s not like anyone else has to know where my fly and line are. It’s just me. Also, when I’m walking the flats, my shots tend to be short and stealthy, and this line is perfect for that.


Well, as I write this, I’m headed back to Belize for three weeks, where I’ll spend two weeks at Rocky Point Permit Camp chasing permit DIY and a week in town doing guided fishing with, you guessed it, Hilian. Which setup do I intend to use while I’m there? While I’ll invariably bring entirely too much stuff, my go-to setups will be my Sage Xi3 8wt with a Hatch Iconic 7+ and Sage Xi2 9wt with a Hatch Iconic 9+ with the Flats Clear Floater. And that says everything you need to know about this line. 

 
 
 
  • Writer: William O'Neal
    William O'Neal
  • Aug 31, 2024
  • 3 min read

Updated: May 23

This article first appeared on the Lost Coast Outfitters blog in August of 2024.


This past July, the Lost Coast Outfitters crew hosted a trip to No Name Lodge in Boquerón, Puerto Rico. Quite possibly the only fly fishing “lodge” in Puerto Rico, No Name feels less like a typical lodge experience and more like renting a dope house with friends. The only difference is that half a dozen of those friends are excellent flats guides who own a fleet of Mavericks!


This place is like tarpon school!
This place is like tarpon school!

Our crew of six anglers was a reasonably experienced saltwater fly fishing group, which was great, as No Name feels like what I’d call a somewhat advanced or expert fly fishery. Unlike places like Belize, where permit are plentiful, and they can range in size from very small to very big, almost every permit we saw on this trip was huge. We fished for permit on a series of flats (or reefs) that were offshore. We’d launch the skiffs in the morning, and if the weather permitted, we’d anchor up offshore and wade in knee-high flats or patrol the surf for permit in the waves. Fishing for permit in the surf felt like the type of surf fishing we typically do in NorCal for stripers and perch. 


Brandon was on fire!
Brandon was on fire!

The wild thing about this permit fishery is not only how big the permit are here but how incredibly technical it is. The permit flats are offshore, and they are always windy. And by windy, we mean 20+ MPH. While wading the flats, we often saw massive permit tailing in the knee to thigh-high water. The upside is that these fish are aggressively feeding. The downside is that the surface you’re walking on is loud, so they WILL hear you, and the winds are brutal, so you’ll have to adjust your angle to get a shot. 


Ken with his first Atlantic permit.
Ken with his first Atlantic permit.

On this trip, two permit were caught. All by Ken from North Carolina. Friend of the shop and all-around great guy, Brandon (@theelordoftheflies), hooked a beast of a permit in the surf and valiantly fought it in neck-deep waves for about 20 minutes before losing it on the reef.

If chasing some of the most difficult permit in the Western Hemisphere isn’t your thing, No Name is an incredible tarpon fishery. It seems that many of the locals don’t even bother to chase tarpon, so these fish are incredibly unpressured. On my first day of tarpon fishing, I probably hooked 20+ tarpon and landed at least a dozen. 


Ken with his second Atlantic permit.
Ken with his second Atlantic permit.

Cooper and Matt run a great program at No Name. The town of Boquerón is super chill, and we start the morning with a simple breakfast at the lodge. Jake, the head guide, shows up with sandwiches for lunch, and one of the guides takes the group to one of the local restaurants for dinner. 


Marc looking like a tough guy manhandling a tarpon.
Marc looking like a tough guy manhandling a tarpon.

When it came to gear, we used 9wts for permit and 10wts and 11wts for tarpon. Our crew used the Orvis Helios 4D Fly 9wt, Sage Salt R8 Fly 10wt, and the G. Loomis NRX+Saltwater 11wt for rods. For reels, we rocked the Hatch Iconic 9 Plus Fly Reel, Shilton SR Reel 12wt, and Galvan Grip Saltwater Fly Reel 11wt


For flies, the No Name guys love crabs, and we mainly rocked brown and green Alphlexo Crabs. For tarpon, those fish went crazy for anything that was purple and black. They primarily used the following: Tarpon SP Bunny - Black/Purple, Enrico Puglisi Peanut Butter, Umpqua Tarpon Toad, Rio Smelling Salt. My buddy Brandon got into a heated discussion with someone who said that tarpon don’t like flash, so he tied up a bunch of flies that he called “The FU” and caught several nice tarpon with them. 


For anyone who’s chased permit in places like Belize or Mexico but wants an even more challenging permit experience, then No Name is the place for you. On the other hand, if you’ve ever wanted to catch tarpon on the fly, I can’t think of a better place to get it done. 

If you’re interested in checking out No Name, contact us, and we’ll connect you with Cooper and Matt. We’re also hosting another trip back there next year (2025) and have room for five. So, if you want to get in on that trip, reach out, and we’ll get you all sorted.

 
 
 
  • Writer: William O'Neal
    William O'Neal
  • Jul 30, 2024
  • 3 min read

Updated: May 23

This article first appeared on the Lost Coast Outfitters blog in July of 2024.


The Lost Coast Outfitters crew recently returned from our first-ever trip to Blue Bonefish Lodge on the southern tip of Ambergris Caye, Belize, and the trip did not disappoint. One of the newer lodges on Ambergris Caye, Chris and Mary from Blue Bonefish, know how to show you a good time.


Our crew of six anglers included two first-time flats anglers. While we caught all of the target species: bonefish, tarpon, and permit, we were most excited that two of our first-time flats anglers got their first permit!

Wil looking all serious!
Wil looking all serious!

We started the trip with a DIY day on the northern part of Ambergris Caye to get folks accustomed to flats fishing. We managed to land a few nice bonefish. The next day, we jumped in the golf cart and headed south to Blue Bonefish, where we were greeted by the crew there.


Cat with her first permit!
Cat with her first permit!

Blue Bonefish is a very nice lodge. Everything about it is super nice and comfortable, from the communal spaces to the rooms. To make things even better, the staff is great and does a great job of making you feel like one of the family. The meals were fantastic and reminded me of visiting family. 


Our group of six anglers took turns fishing with the various guides Chris and Mary hooked us up with. They all did a great job of not only getting us on fish but were also super flexible and helpful. The more experienced anglers could focus on the fish they were most interested in, and the new folks could learn the ins and outs of flats fishing in a low-pressure environment. 

Aside from the lodge and the guides, nothing makes for a good flats trip like being well prepared. While a plethora of products were used on this trip, first-timer Cat loved the Redington setups she used. She caught her first permit on an 8wt Redington Predator Fly Rod and Redington Grande Fly Reel


Andrew with his first permit!
Andrew with his first permit!

For fly lines, most of us preferred the Rio Premier Bonefish Quickshooter Fly Line and the Rio Elite Flats Pro Fly Line. It’s important to note that the Flats Pro is a fairly advanced fly line, while the Bonefish Quickshooter is a bit more forgiving.   


The tarpon even showed up to play!
The tarpon even showed up to play!

While many saltwater anglers like to build their leaders, we recommend tapered leaders like the Rio Bonefish/Saltwater Fluoroflex Tapered Leaders. I’ve seen too many blood knots fail on permit. That said, you will need tippet, so we rocked the Rio Fluoroflex Saltwater Tippet in a variety of breaking strengths, from 10lb and 12lb for bonefish to 16lb for permit. For tarpon, most of our guides liked to run straight 40lb. 


The guides were all great!
The guides were all great!

Most of the time, we fished from pangas, but you’ll often find yourself jumping out to chase those ever-elusive permit. I’ve been rocking the Simms Pursuit Shoe on my flats trips, and I love them. They are durable and comfortable (when paired with a set of wet-wading socks) and can also be put on quickly. 


When it comes to flies to use on Ambergris Caye, we mostly used shrimp patterns for both bonefish and permit. That said, here are some of the flies that made up the bulk of our various boxes:


 
 
 
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